Talk:Uruk-hai
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It is often assumed the following: There are three basic strengths of orc: common, the weakest, sometimes called goblins, to be found in such places as under mountains, and perhaps Mirkwood; uruk, the somewhat strong type found in service directly under Sauron; Uruk-hai, the strongest, with sunlight tolerance, by some assumed to be crossbred with another race, serving under Saruman
This is different from what is in the entry: that uruk and uruk-hai are identical
I'd like some proof or analysis on one or the other direction of argument
I'd also like a mention to the quote from the book on how revolting they find eating each other.
on the website www.thelandofshadow.com it states that Sauron's uruks/uruk-hai were the most powerful followed by Saruman's uruk-hai followed by orcs. (I think though of all the "mere" orcs Sauron's were the most disciplined. In the book LOTR: weapons and warfare it states that Mordor uruks were more developed then their Isengard kin and Saruman had copied Sauron's formula's. So that's the order of strength I generally go by.Theblackrider369 23:04, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Need proof
In the movie, Gandalf says that Uruk-hai are a mix between "Orcs and Goblin-men." However, I don't have the book; can anyone who has Lord of the Ring: Fellowship of the Ring verify this for me? Imperial Star Destroyer 15:52, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
- Goblins and orcs are the same. At least, in the bookverse. They're not a mix of the two, they're simply artificially selected Orcs. -- Ederchil 08:53, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
I thought it was a mix of Elves and Orcs.Mata NuiTalk Contribs 21:49, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure it's not Elves and orcs. It could have been Half-Trolls and orcs. TheGreyPilgrim|Talk|Contribs|Edits 23:46, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Grishnákh
It is stated on this page that Grishnákh was one of the mordor uruks and had with him many others but i believe he and his men are just ordinary orcs.
Even on Grishnákhs own page he is stated to be an orc and i have read the two towers a few times and i don't believe Tolkien states that they are Uruk/Uruk-hai
I didn't want to edit the article myself until i got some other opinions, so could someone else please edit if they agree, if you don't then please show me something to prove they are uruks
[edit] an orc's transformation
Question: When an orc is "transformed" into an uruk-hai does the orc retain its memory's from its "orc years?"
I know there's probably not an answer to this question but the thought has been bugging me so I thought I might as well ask and maybe there is an answer.Theblackrider369 23:03, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
