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Bauglir Edit

Where does the Bauglir part of the name come from. I can't say I remember it in 'The Silmarillion' or any other source for that matter.--Darth Mantus 13:26, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

It is mentioned in the Silmarillion several times. A pdf search resulted in seven hits. It is even in the index of names. --Weas-El talk ) 14:31, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Rodger Garland picture Edit

can somebody please put up back that rodger garland picture of him? —The preceding unsigned comment was summoned by (talkcontribs) 01:37, January 16, 2007.

Melkor chained
what picture? there was this image which used to be on the page Gimli 13:59, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to nominate a couple of options to replace the current artwork on the Melkor/Morgoth page.

No, the one at the top stays. If want it in teh article ten it goes in the gallery section.Umishiru 05:42, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

That's fine, but don't act like you're the final authority, this board is not a dictatorship. Also, if you choose to respond, please do so when you're sober or can at least take the time to check your grammar. ;-)

I'm wondering where is it said that Morgoth was beheaded? Is it not fanfiction? In Morgoth Ring Tolkien said his body was destroyed, but beheaded??? Anyone have a source for this? 08:31, January 31, 2013 (UTC)Ludo

Reminds me of TWK or Sauron a bit. DonutFourGive me the word of the goingson 19:40, May 7, 2013 (UTC)


I redirected Melko to Melkor for now. Although might be room to seperate it out into its own article at some point. Since there are some 'differences' between the later published Morgoth and the early pre-Hobbit written material in the HoMe series. I don't think "Melko" appears in the more "complete" core material.Baggins (talk) 21:04, June 26, 2013 (UTC).

Very tall in Peter Jackson film? Edit

It says in the info box that he is very tall in peter jackson's film. He was never in there, he might be briefly shown in the Hobbit but that is unknown and highly not going to happen. Care if it is changed?

Possibly a Sign That Eru is Flawed?Edit

I do a lot of roleplaying--no, wait, stay where you are; I promise you that this isn't going to be me pretending my headcanon is real. I do a lot of roleplaying, and what often happens is that someone does something that the person managing the story doesn't expect. When that happens, the worst thing the DM can do is try to counter the addition, because doing so almost always results in the player becoming annoyed and the story itself becoming less focused and fractured. This is exactly what Eru did, and Tolkien directly acknowledges this by showing how Melkor became even more disgruntled, to the point where he became actively treacherous, after Eru's rebuke. Melkor's original intent was not to conquer the music but to improve it; it's possible that with some work, Melkor's song could have been joined with that of Eru's in a sort of cycle--winter to summer, life to death, etc. etc. etc. Stories are generally pretty damn boring without conflict. Instead, he alienated Melkor, which resulted in the marring of his creation. 


Snowskeeper---Till Hell Freezes Over. (talk) 06:11, February 25, 2014 (UTC)

Tossed together articleEdit

There is a LOT of usage of "Utterly defeated" in this article. I think I must have seen it about 20 times.

There's also a lot of thrown-together info, not enough parentheticals and explanation of events. The author throws in new names without any expansion on the new names at all, makes it a little tough to read and understand.

Can anyone help work on getting this article cleaned up a lot? 16:04, January 26, 2015 (UTC)

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