Talk:Aragorn II Elessar
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In "Early Life" it says that: "However, in the year T.A. 2951 Elrond revealed to the young man his true origins, and presented him with the shards of Narsil. The pressure that came with this revelation did not sit well, and that same year Aragorn left Rivendell, but not before meeting Elrond's daughter Arwen Evenstar for the first time in the woods of Imladris."
The basic facts, summary and conclusions in this section of the "Early Life" are false. Aragorn was in fact joyful and proud of the discovery of his lineage; it was his meeting with Arwen and his love for her that drove him to leave Rivendell. Elrond spoke to him and told him he could not marry or betroth himself to anyone "until your time comes and you are found worthy of it", implying that Aragorn could not have Arwen or anyone until he reclaimed the throne of Gondor. Aragorn left Rivendell to labor against Sauron so that some day he might become King and marry Arwen, not to escape the "burden" of being Isildur's Heir, which seems to be a plot element devised for the movies.
Reference: The Return of the King: Appendix A: (V) Here Follows A Part of the Tale of Aragorn and Arwen.
Would anyone object for me composing a concise and more accurate summary of Aragorn's early life in Rivendell?
- Not at all. Go right ahead. -Lord vader1414 16:37, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Main Picture
Um... It's a little small. Mind if I make it a bit bigger? -Lord vader1414 16:38, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
- ive made it larger. (you dont have to ask to make changes!) Gimli 10:28, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you! Oh, FYI: I had problems last time I made a pictue bigger, so, I was just making sure. -Lord vader1414 16:43, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] not a great article
This isn't a very good article, there's nothing about him tracing Gollum or anything
(Posted by Gandalf8189)-->I agree, but for many reasons. For one, this entire article seems to be based more upon the movie version of Estel/Aragorn/Elessar. Especialy in the parts where it mentions his heritage and "reluctance" to claim the throne. I think this is misleading, Aragorn took pride in his heritage, and knew he would one day become kind and accepted the fact. He would not enter the white city however, because he wanted to finish his business before claiming the throne. He was never ashamed, reluctant, or put down because of his past, unlike in the movies, which portray him as ashamed of his past and his ancestry. I think this needs to be changed, as has been mentioned.
Another example of misleading wording is this: Aragorn, along with Legolas and Gimli, later fought alongside the Army of the Dead in a synchronized defence of Minas Tirith.
While almost true, the Army of the Dead never actually fought. They scared the crap out of the corsairs, undoubtedly, but they never defended Minas Tirith itself, as in the movies.
In conclusion, this article needs to be fixed or at least divided into a Movie Version and then a Book Version, as the two characters have different personalities and histories.
- The front page of the wiki says that it's especially the movies that this wiki is about. That's probably why it's skewed that way. But what I don't like about the article is that the first paragraph is totally boring. Aragorn is an exciting character with a heroic life, and the first paragraph is like a yearbook entry or an obituary. 67.170.79.31 22:46, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Name
The current name of this article is a mixture of different names which Aragorn adopted. It could be called any of the following: 'Aragorn', 'King Aragorn', 'King Aragorn II', 'King Elessar Telcontar' or 'King Elessar'. The name should not mix these different names together as it currently does, simply because the names were from different times and different peoples. Therefore is it worth voting to choose an appropriate name for this article?-- KingAragorn talk contribs edits email 11:37, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Article is really poor.
Arwen did not stay at Aragorn's side until she died. She went to lothlorien, laid herself on the lee hill of lothlorien (Cerin Amroth) and died.
[edit] age
The article states that he was about 100 during the War Of The Ring,so how come he can run,jump about and fight when he is that old, i mean hes not an elf or anything is he!!!!
He was descended from the Númenóreans, who lived much longer than ordinary men did. Gamma Metroid | talk | contribs | edits 21:52, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
