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The merging of Battle of Azanulbizar and Battle of Nanduhirion under what name? (voting closed & merged)

The Battle of Azanulbizar or the Battle of Nanduhirion?. When or if this article is merged under which name should it be? I vote the Battle of Azanulbizar because it was a dwarven war fought by dwarves only against the orcs.DarkLantern 12:38, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I would have to say we put it under Battle of Azanulbizar. That is what it is better known as. User:Uldor

I vote Battle of Azanulbizar. --Rawn 18:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I would say it should be Battle of Azanulbizar - Razor77 03:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

The vote is unanimous for the Battle of Azanulbizar the matter is closed.--DarkLantern 23:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 18:30, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

The merging of Elendili and The Faithful under what name? (voting closed)

The Elendili or The Faithful? When or if this article is merged under which name should it be? I vote The Faithful since that was what they were commonly refered to in The Silmarillion.DarkLantern 12:38, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree. The Faithful is better. User:Uldor

I vote The Faithful. --Rawn 18:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Faithful - Razor77 03:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

The vote is unanimous for the The Faithful the matter is closed.--DarkLantern 23:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

On it --"The stars are veiled. Something stirs in the East. A sleepless malice. The Eye of the enemy is moving." —Legolas 22:33, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Done --"The stars are veiled. Something stirs in the East. A sleepless malice. The Eye of the enemy is moving." —Legolas 22:39, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

I'm done it's merged theoden.king--"The stars are veiled. Something stirs in the East. A sleepless malice. The Eye of the enemy is moving." —Legolas 22:45, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

The merging of Vingilótë and Vingilot under which name? (voting closed & merged)

Vingilótë or Vingilot. When or if this article is merged under which name should it be? I vote Vingilot because that was what it was commonly refered to in The Silmarillion.DarkLantern 12:38, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree. That is what it is usually called in the Silmarillion. User:Uldor

I say use the full name Vingilótë. --Rawn 18:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I vote Vingilot. --Ecthelion III 19:56, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Majority rules for Vingilot the matter is closed--DarkLantern 03:18, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 18:54, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

The merging of the Battle at the Black Gate and Battle of the Morannon under which name? (voting closed & Merged)

The Battle at the Black Gate. Merge with the Battle of the Morannon?

I vote yes.--DarkLantern 16:07, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I vote yes. --Rawn 18:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Vote:Yes--^{Odysseas-Spartan}53 19:49, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes (Neutral for naming; both seem equally suitable) - Ralnon (talk) 17:46, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Vote: Yes, but I think it should be named Battle at the Black Gate because that is what people know best. --Nognix 21:58, 25 may 2009 (UTC)

I vote Yes. I like the Battle of the Morannon. User:Uldor

Yes, I prefer Battle of the Morannon - Razor77 03:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

I vote "Yes." There the same battle.Theblackrider369 19:19, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I vote Yes. They are the same thing. I say it should be named Battle of the Morannon because it simply sounds better than Battle at the Black Gate.--Ecthelion III 01:49, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

I vote No; neither. Both should be merged under the "War of the Ring". Although is was an important conflict, it was *not* listed in the index of either the Return of the King (where a seemingly lesser battle, the "Battle of the Peak", was) nor the Silmarillion as a separate, distinct battle.

I vote Yes. The Battle of Morannon says the name of the battle more specifically. --"The stars are veiled. Something stirs in the East. A sleepless malice. The Eye of the enemy is moving." —Legolas 22:58, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

The majority rules for the merging of Battle of the Morannon and Battle at the Black Gate into one article under the name Battle of the Morannon.--DarkLantern 20:26, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

I merged it theoden.king --"The stars are veiled. Something stirs in the East. A sleepless malice. The Eye of the enemy is moving." —Legolas 21:04, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

The merging of the Laketown and Esgaroth into one article under which name? (voting closed & already merged)

I vote yes they should be merged under the name of Esgaroth--DarkLantern 16:07, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I think I'm going to go with the more common name "Laketown" as it was in the book.

I'm changing my vote to Laketown.--DarkLantern 02:26, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

I vote for Laketown that’s the more common reference. --Rawn 18:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Vote:Yes. With the name Esgaroth.--^{Odysseas-Spartan}53 19:49, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I vote Yes. I like Esgaroth. That is the official name. User:Uldor

Yes, I think it should be to Laketown as that is how it is referred to most - Razor77 03:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but I like the official name Esgaroth. --Snakezero 19:44, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes. I too like the official name, Esgaroth. --Nickthegeek 22:33, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes and under Esgaroth for the same reason. thoeden.king --"The stars are veiled. Something stirs in the East. A sleepless malice. The Eye of the enemy is moving." —Legolas 21:10, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

The majority rules for the merging of Laketown and Esgaroth under the name Esgaroth.

MERGED theoden.king --"The stars are veiled. Something stirs in the East. A sleepless malice. The Eye of the enemy is moving." —Legolas 18:37, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

The merging of the Noldoli and Noldor into one article under which name? (voting closed & already merged)

I vote yes it should be merged.--DarkLantern 16:07, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I vote yes. --Rawn 18:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I vote yes. User:Uldor

I vote yes.--Serrious 02:45, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Razor77 03:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

I vote yes. -- Snakezero 19:44, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

The vote is unanimous for the merging of Noldoli with Noldor the matter is closed.--DarkLantern 23:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 08:50, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

The merging of the Scale and Smaug into one article under which name? (Voting closed & merged)

I vote yes it should be merged.--DarkLantern 16:07, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I vote yes. --Rawn 18:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Vote: No, other dragons have scales as well. I think it's like merging "horse" with "rohirrim". The scales are a part of Smaug but also of Ancaligon or Glaurung. --Nognix 22:01, 25 may 2009 (UTC)

I vote no. I agree that that is like merging horse with Rohirrim. User:Uldor

True the all the other dragons have scales , but in the article it is talking about Smaug's so if it isn’t to be merged with Smaug perhaps it should be re-written if it is that important stating that all dragons have scales. Just a thought.--Serrious 02:50, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

If some one thinks that it is with in the scope of this wiki to have a generic article on Scales then this article needs to be rewritten to encompass that. However, I feel that an article on Scales is out side of the focus of this wiki, and since the only thing that links to Scale is a redirect from Scale (zoology), and that only has a link form the article Smaug, the link on the Smaug article should be redirected to Wikipedia and both Scale and Scale (zoology) should be deleted. - Razor77 03:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

For this wiki to be complete, it is highly desirable to have articles such as "Scale" to cover the aspects of scales in Tolkien writings that aren't covered on Wikipedia. By all means have a link to Wikipedia from that page, for readers who feel they want general matters about scales, but don't send our readers there for everything about scales. The redirect from Scale (zoology) is useful as long as there may be material here that has been copied from Wikipedia with WP links in it - which can mean "for ever" because at any time we may find something new on WP worth copying. — Robin Patterson (Talk) 03:29, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Yes. I don't see the relevance of Scale. I'm in favor of including it into the article Smaug and leave a redirect to that headline. --Weas-El ( talk | blog ) 07:47, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

I vote yes. The article is only two sentences long, both about Smaug. Maybe if it gave a detailed description of dragon scales based on any dragon referenced in any of the books, it could stay, but even then, it seems like it should just be a heading under Dragons instead. It really serves no purpose on its own. Lord Knight Xiron 18:48, June 4, 2010 (UTC)Lord Knight Xiron

The decision on this issue after a year and based on the input of others is to merge the text from Scale, and put it in the Smaug article under Smaug's scales.

The merging of the White City and Minas Tirith into one article under which name? (voting closed & already merged)

I vote yes.--DarkLantern 16:07, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I vote yes. --Rawn 18:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Vote:Yes--^{Odysseas-Spartan}53 19:49, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Vote: Yes --Nognix 22:05, 15 may 2009 (UTC)

I vote yes. User:Uldor

Yes - Razor77 03:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

I vote yes. --Snakezero 19:23, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

The vote is unanimous for the merging of White City with Minas Tirith the matter is closed.--DarkLantern 23:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 21:12, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

The merging of the Three Houses of Men and Edain into one article under which name? (voting closed & already merged)

I vote yes.--DarkLantern 16:07, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I vote yes. --Rawn 18:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I vote yes. User:Uldor

Vote:Yes --Nognix 22:01, 25 may 2009 (UTC)

I vote yes. -- Snakezero 19:44, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

The vote is unanimous for the merging of Three Houses of Men with Edain the matter is closed.--DarkLantern 23:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 09:36, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

The merging of the Gondor Tower Guards, Guard of the Fountain Court, and Guards of the Citadel into one article under which name? (voting closed & merged)

(Sorry for this little edit but I noticed some as well) Shouldn‘t these be merged--Nognix 17:00, 26 may 2009

That sounds Ok.--DarkLantern 15:31, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Razor77 03:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

I like that idea. Yes -- Snakezero 19:44, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

The vote is unanimous for the merging of Gondor Tower Guards with Guard of the Fountain Court under the name Guards of the Citadel the matter is closed.--DarkLantern 23:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

It's merged theoden.king --"The stars are veiled. Something stirs in the East. A sleepless malice. The Eye of the enemy is moving." —Legolas 23:07, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

The merging of Morannon with the Black Gate under the name of the Black Gate. (Voting closed & Merged)

I vote yes. The Black Gate is the common name.--DarkLantern 18:23, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

VOTE:YES under the name Black Gate--^{Odysseas-Spartan}53 08:48, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes they should be merged, but I'm not sure under which name - Razor77 03:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but I think both names are ok. -- Snakezero 19:44, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Compare item 5! — Robin Patterson (Talk) 03:35, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

The vote is Yes for the merging of Black Gate with Morannon under the name Morannon the matter is closed.--DarkLantern 20:26, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 07:08, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

The merging of Mumak and Mumakil. into one article under the name Mumakil (voting closed & already merged)

"Mumakil", besides there is an error in the Mumakil; it has a period ([.]) in it and that should be fixed anyway.

I vote yes for Mumakil.--DarkLantern 06:50, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes Mumakil - Razor77 03:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Vote: Yes Mumakil - Nognix 16:47, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

The vote is unanimous for the merging of Mumak with Mumakil the matter is closed.--DarkLantern 23:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm on it theoden.king --"The stars are veiled. Something stirs in the East. A sleepless malice. The Eye of the enemy is moving." —Legolas 21:22, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

I'm all done it's merged you can check it out to be able to delete Mumak. theoden.king --"The stars are veiled. Something stirs in the East. A sleepless malice. The Eye of the enemy is moving." —Legolas 21:40, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

The merging of the Ainu and Ainur into just "Ainur" (voting closed & already merged)

I vote yes. Why have two separate articles based solely on their singular and plural uses.?--DarkLantern 06:50, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Razor77 03:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Vote: Yes - Nognix 16:47, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

The vote is unanimous for the merging of Ainu with Ainur the matter is closed.--DarkLantern 23:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 06:34, September 5, 2009 (UTC)

The merging of Sméagol and Gollum into one article under the name Gollum (voting closed & already merged)

Another administrator has suggested the merging of Sméagol with Gollum.

I agree, after all that is what he is generally known as and what he has been most of his life.--DarkLantern 02:26, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Vote: Yes - Nognix 16:49, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Since I suggested it, I vote Yes - Razor77 14:44, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, definitely. -- Snakezero 19:44, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

The vote is unanimous for the merging of Sméagol with Gollum the matter is closed.--DarkLantern 23:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm on it --"The stars are veiled. Something stirs in the East. A sleepless malice. The Eye of the enemy is moving." —Legolas 23:00, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

I merged it theoden.king--"The stars are veiled. Something stirs in the East. A sleepless malice. The Eye of the enemy is moving." —Legolas 23:20, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

The merging of the Laiquendi and the Green-elves into one article under which name? (voting closed & already merged)

I vote yes, under the name Laiquendi.--DarkLantern 02:26, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Vote: Yes under the name Laequendi because all the other articles about elves have these names. You can make redirects with: Green-elves, Sea-elves, ... to the pages about elves by using the information here, kindreds of elves.

Yes under Laiquendi - Razor77 14:44, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

The vote is unanimous for the merging of Laiquendi with Green-elves under the name Laiquendi the matter is closed.--DarkLantern 23:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 07:48, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

The merging of these three articles into one: Five Rivers of Lebennin, Rivers of Gondor, and Seven Rivers of Gondor (voting closed & already merged)

I vote the general title of Rivers of Gondor.--DarkLantern 15:12, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I also like the title of Rivers of Gondor - Razor77 14:44, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

The vote is unanimous for the merging of the articles above into one under the name Rivers of Gondor the matter is closed.--DarkLantern 23:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 04:56, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

The merging of the Corsairs of Umbar and the Corsairs into one article under which name? (voting closed & already merged)

I vote for the Corsairs of Umbar?--DarkLantern 11:06, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, merging to Corsairs of Umbar - Razor77 13:26, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

The vote is unanimous for the merging of the articles above into one under the name Corsairs of Umbar the matter is closed.--DarkLantern 23:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 07:48, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

The merging of List of Middle-earth characters and List of characters under which name? (voting closed & already merged)

I vote for the List of characters but done in the style of the List of Middle-earth characters, that horizontal-like style.--DarkLantern 11:06, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, merging to List of characters. Also I would suggest that we update the organization of the links. Primarily this would mean any character with two names be alphabetized by their last name - Razor77 13:26, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, merge to List of characters, this is more general. Middle-Earth is just a part of Arda. --Weas-El ( talk | blog ) 07:47, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, merge to , as Middle-earth is part of Arda and there are other characters not from middle earth to. But have a section of the page called Characters from ME. Boom,Boom,Boom bad guys dead. You happy?? 22:34, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, to List of characters. -Nistra 13:32, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

The merging of Artano into Sauron (voting closed & already merged)

Yes, this is another name that Sauron went by and should just be part of the main article. - Razor77 19:05, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I vote yes it should be merged with Sauron.--DarkLantern 20:12, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, and besides Artano is a kinda short article anyway :D --Snakezero 19:44, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

The vote is unanimous for the merging of Artano with Sauron the matter is closed.--DarkLantern 23:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 20:45, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

The merging of Harondor and Southern Gondor into one article. Under which name? (voting closed & merged)

I vote Yes it should be merged under the name Southern Gondor.--DarkLantern 19:33, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, merge to Southern Gondor - Razor77 16:13, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

The vote is unanimous for the merging of Harondor with Southern Gondor under the name Southern Gondor the matter is closed.--DarkLantern 23:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Merged. theoden.king --"The stars are veiled. Something stirs in the East. A sleepless malice. The Eye of the enemy is moving." —Legolas 21:16, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

The merging of Ekkaia and Vaiya into one article. Under which name? (voting closed & merged)

I vote Yes it should be merged under the name Ekkaia that’s the common name for the Encircling Sea surrounding Arda.--DarkLantern 19:33, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, Ekkaia seems appropriate - Razor77 16:13, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

The vote is unanimous for the merging of Ekkaia and Vaiya into one article under the name Ekkaia the matter is closed.--DarkLantern 23:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 20:14, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

The merging of The Free and Corrupted Races of Middle-earth, Races of Middle-earth, and Peoples. Under which name? (voting closed & already merged)

I vote Yes. Under the name The Free and Corrupted Races of Arda.--DarkLantern 01:00, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I think that I prefer the name to be Races of Middle-earth. Also I think that the final style of the page should be similar to what is currently used by the Peoples page. - Razor77 02:08, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Support - Per above comment. {{SUBST:Nosubst|Signatures/Fruit.Smoothie}} 05:03, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Yes- Races of Middle-earth. User:HennethAnnun

Yes. I agree with Razor77. -Nistra 13:15, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Deleted all three and merged the majority of the text into a newly titled article, called Peoples of Arda and of Middle-earth--DarkLantern 19:26, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

The merging of Minas Tirith (First Age) & Tol-in-Gaurhoth but keeping it known as Minas Tirith (First Age). (voting closed & already merged)

I vote Yes that is what it was originally known as under Finrod & Orodreth.--DarkLantern 14:29, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, Minas Tirith (First Age) looks to be the best name for the article. - Razor77 21:20, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

The vote is unanimous for the merging of Minas Tirith (First Age) and Tol-in-Gaurhoth into one article under the name Minas Tirith (First Age) the matter is closed.--DarkLantern 23:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 21:12, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

The merging of Morthond and Blackroot into one article. Under which name? (voting closed & already merged)

I vote Yes under the name Morthond.--DarkLantern 00:06, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, under Morthond - Razor77 01:15, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

The vote is unanimous for the merging of Morthond and Blackroot into one article under the name Morthond the matter is closed.--DarkLantern 23:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 07:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

The merging of Mundburg (The Rohirric a name for Minas Tirith) with Minas Tirith. (voting closed & merged)

I vote Yes.--DarkLantern 00:06, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Razor77 01:15, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes -- Snakezero 19:30, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

The vote is unanimous for the merging of Mundburg with Minas Tirith the matter is closed.--DarkLantern 23:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Merged theoden.king --"The stars are veiled. Something stirs in the East. A sleepless malice. The Eye of the enemy is moving." —Legolas 11:56, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

The merging of Orald (what the men of the north call Tom Bombadil) with Tom Bombadil. (voting closed & already merged)

I vote Yes.--DarkLantern 00:06, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Razor77 01:15, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

The vote is unanimous for the merging of Orald with Tom Bombadil the matter is closed.--DarkLantern 23:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 21:12, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

The merging of Aulendil (Another name of Sauron) with Sauron. (voting closed & already merged)

I vote Yes.--DarkLantern 00:06, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Razor77 01:15, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I vote yes. -- Snakezero 19:44, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

The vote is unanimous for the merging of Aulendil with Sauron the matter is closed.--DarkLantern 23:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 07:48, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

The merging of Aikanáro (a name for Aegnor) with Aegnor. (voting closed & already merged)

I vote Yes.--DarkLantern 00:06, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Razor77 01:15, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

The vote is unanimous for the merging of Aikanáro with Aegnor the matter is closed.--DarkLantern 23:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 20:45, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

The merging of Nibin-Noeg (a name for Petty-dwarves) with Petty-dwarves. (voting closed & already merged)

I vote Yes.--DarkLantern 00:06, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Razor77 01:15, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I vote yes. -- Snakezero 19:44, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

The vote is unanimous for the merging of Nibin-Noeg with Petty-dwarves the matter is closed.--DarkLantern 23:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 03:10, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

The merging of River Running and Celduin into one article Under what Name? (voting closed & already merged)

I vote yes under the name the River Running.--DarkLantern 23:03, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, under River Running - Razor77 03:26, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, under the Running River of Celdiun? I don't know, seems to flow more this way =O {{SUBST:Nosubst|Signatures/Fruit.Smoothie}} 05:06, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, under whichever naming is most common for other articles; Anduin is called Anduin for instance. Or, whichever is most common lore-wise. -Nistra 14:02, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yes under the more commonly used name, which I believe is River Running. McJeff ^{(talk this way)}/_{(stalk this way)} 23:54, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 04:41, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

The merging of Glittering Caves and Aglarond into one article Under what Name? (voting closed & already merged)

I vote yes under the name the Glittering Caves that is what it is commonly recognized as.--DarkLantern 23:03, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, under Glittering Caves - Razor77 03:26, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Per above. {{SUBST:Nosubst|Signatures/Fruit.Smoothie}} 05:11, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

--Most definitely. User:Henneth Annun

Yes under Glittering Caves. TheGreyPilgrim|Talk|Contribs|Edits 02:29, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 03:36, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

The merging of the text of Ages and Ages of the Children of Ilúvatar into one article but under what name? (voting closed & already merged)

I vote yes under the name Ages of Arda.--DarkLantern 07:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, under Ages of Arda - Razor77 03:26, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Ages of Arda sounds very pleasing to the ear. User:Henneth Annun

Yes, per above. -Nistra 13:42, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Ages of Arda should work just fine. McJeff ^{(talk this way)}/_{(stalk this way)} 23:59, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 04:41, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

The merging of the text of Agarwaen with Túrin Turambar.(voting closed & already merged)

I vote yes--DarkLantern 07:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Razor77 03:26, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, definitely. Agarwaen is just an alias. Merge and leave a redirect to Túrin Turambar]]. --Weas-El ( talk | blog ) 07:47, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yes please. User:Henneth Annun

Yes. -Nistra 14:04, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 17:12, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

The merging of the text of Solisimpi with Teleri. (voting closed & already merged)

I vote yes--DarkLantern 07:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Razor77 03:26, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, merge to Teleri, this is the more common name. --Weas-El ( talk | blog ) 07:47, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yes - Solisimpi was the original name; Teleri is the true one. TheGreyPilgrim|Talk|Contribs|Edits 02:30, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. - Nistra 14:11, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 17:12, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

The merging of the text of Heren Istarion with Istari.(voting closed & already merged)

I vote yes--DarkLantern 07:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Razor77 03:26, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, merge to Istari. --Weas-El ( talk | blog ) 07:47, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. -Nistra 14:36, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. McJeff ^{(talk this way)}/_{(stalk this way)} 00:06, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 04:41, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

The merging of the text of Isle of Elenna with Numenor. (voting closed & already merged)

I vote yes--DarkLantern 07:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Razor77 03:26, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, merge to Numenor, this is more common. --Weas-El ( talk | blog ) 07:47, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Most, most definitely. User:Henneth Annun

Yes. -Nistra 14:40, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 10:18, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

The merging of the text of Anar with Sun. (voting closed & already merged)

I vote yes--DarkLantern 07:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Razor77 03:26, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

I merged it theosen.king --"The stars are veiled. Something stirs in the East. A sleepless malice. The Eye of the enemy is moving." —Legolas 22:49, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

The merging of the text of Aulendur with Noldor. (voting closed & already merged)

I vote yes--DarkLantern 07:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Razor77 03:26, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

The merging of the text of Curunir with Saruman. (voting closed & already merged)

I vote yes--DarkLantern 07:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Razor77 03:26, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, of course. User:Henneth Annun

The merging of the text of Gorthaur with Sauron. (voting closed & merged)

I vote yes--DarkLantern 07:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Razor77 03:26, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Ralnon (talk) 17:41, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

The vote is unanimous for the merging of Treegarth of Orthanc with Orthanc the matter is closed--DarkLantern 03:18, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Merged theoden.king --"The stars are veiled. Something stirs in the East. A sleepless malice. The Eye of the enemy is moving." —Legolas 17:54, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

The merging of the text of Isil with Moon. (voting closed & merged)

I vote yes--DarkLantern 07:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Razor77 03:26, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Ralnon (talk) 17:41, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

The vote is unanimous for the merging of Isil with Moon the matter is closed--DarkLantern 03:18, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm on it theoden.king --"The stars are veiled. Something stirs in the East. A sleepless malice. The Eye of the enemy is moving." —Legolas 22:25, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Done it's merged --"The stars are veiled. Something stirs in the East. A sleepless malice. The Eye of the enemy is moving." —Legolas 22:29, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

The merging of the text of Nîn-in-Eilph with Swanfleet.

I vote yes--DarkLantern 07:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Razor77 03:26, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, merge to Swanfleet, this is more common. --Weas-El ( talk | blog ) 07:47, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. -Nistra 14:43, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. McJeff ^{(talk this way)}/_{(stalk this way)} 00:09, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 04:41, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

The merging of the text of Tinúviel with Lúthien. (voting closed & merged)

I vote yes--DarkLantern 07:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Razor77 03:26, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Ralnon (talk) 17:43, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

The vote is unanimous for the merging of Tinúviel with Lúthien the matter is closed--DarkLantern 03:18, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 20:31, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

The merging of the text of Oiolosse with Taniquetil (voting closed & merged)

I vote yes--DarkLantern 07:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Razor77 03:26, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes --Weas-El ( talk | blog ) 07:47, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. -Nistra 14:48, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

The merging of the text of Taur-nu-Fuin with Dorthonion.(voting closed & merged)

I vote yes--DarkLantern 07:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Razor77 03:26, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, merge to Dorthonion, this is the more common name. --Weas-El ( talk | blog ) 07:47, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. -Nistra 14:48, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, merge to Dorthonion. McJeff ^{(talk this way)}/_{(stalk this way)} 00:16, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 04:41, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

The merging of the text of Deldúwath with Dorthonion. (voting closed & merged)

I vote yes--DarkLantern 07:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Razor77 03:26, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, merge to Dorthonion, this is the more common name. --Weas-El ( talk | blog ) 07:47, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

The merging of the Pinnacle of Orthanc with Orthanc (voting closed & merged)

I vote yes--DarkLantern 14:56, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Ralnon (talk) 17:43, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

I vote yes NJZimmermann 21:12, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, merge to Orthanc, this is the more general headword. --Weas-El ( talk | blog ) 07:47, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. User:Henneth Annun

Merged--DarkLantern 21:20, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

The merging of Minas Anor with Minas Tirith (voting closed & merged)

I vote yes--DarkLantern 06:34, September 5, 2009 (UTC)

I vote yes NJZimmermann 21:09, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

I vote Yes. --Uldor 20:48, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

I vote yes to the merge. Let's be sure to redirect the one to the other. -- Alvincura 00:31, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, merge to Minas Tirith, this is the more common name. --Weas-El ( talk | blog ) 07:47, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 15:01, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

The merging of Haradrim and Southrons into one article under which name? (voting closed & already merged)

I vote yes under Haradrim.--DarkLantern 06:46, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

I also vote Yes, under Haradrim. --Uldor 20:45, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, merge to Haradrim, this is a name, the other is a description. --Weas-El ( talk | blog ) 07:47, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. User:Henneth Annun

Yes, to Haradrim. -Nistra 14:58, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 17:12, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

The merging of Gulf of Lhûn with Gulf of Lune (voting ended & merged)

I vote yes. Gulf of Lune is more common.--DarkLantern 16:31, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but merge Lune into Lhun as I think the original name deserves the namesake, and then redirect Lune to Lhun, if necessary. Fruit.Smoothie 05:41, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but I'm indecisive about the headword. --Weas-El ( talk | blog ) 07:47, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Gulf of Lune, to match Lune, but we should ideally make a consensus on the general naming of articles, and then follow that. -Nistra 15:32, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yes and agree with Nistra about writing up some naming conventions. McJeff ^{(talk this way)}/_{(stalk this way)} 00:37, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 04:41, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

The merging of Swan Knight and Knights of Dol Amroth under the latter title (voting ended & merged)

Yes, Reason: Although we should notice that there could be also dismounted knights of Dol Amroth and so are not Swan Knights...I think we should merge it and under the name of Knights of Dol Amroth(my opinion), and if we find necessity of making a page for the dismounted knights of Dol Amroth..I think we should name it Dismounted Knights of Dol Amroth..

But still it makes me think a lot...Swan Knight may be the most famous title.. -Winterz 19.51, October 4, 2010 (GMT)

The merging of the text of Bralda-hîn with Brandywine. (voting closed)

I vote yes--DarkLantern 07:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, Shouldn't this be merged to Brandywine River? - Razor77 03:26, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes; they should all be merged into Brandywine River User:Henneth Annun

Yes. -Nistra 14:18, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Merge into Brandywine River. McJeff ^{(talk this way)}/_{(stalk this way)} 00:00, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

The merging of Giant Spiders and Spiders under what name? (Voting Closed & merged)

Yes, and make the name Giant Spiders as they are more accurately described as such.

Wyvern Rex. 11:12, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, merge to Giant Spiders, same reason as Wyvern Rex has given. --Weas-El ( talk | blog ) 07:47, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Agreed. User:Henneth Annun

Yes, and unless there are also spiders of different sizes, to Giant Spiders. -Nistra 15:51, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Merge to Giant Spiders, make the article only about the creatures in Murkwood. Leave Shelob and Ungoliant as external links. McJeff ^{(talk this way)}/_{(stalk this way)} 00:42, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

I vote Yes to Giant Spiders.--DarkLantern 07:22, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 07:22, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

The merging of The Hobbit (1977 animated film) and The Hobbit (1977 film) (Voting Closed)

I vote Yes, Unless others have a strong opinion on it, I would suggest using the name The Hobbit (1977 animated film) because it is more descriptive of the film. - Razor77 03:17, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Ralnon (talk) 17:43, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

I say yes theoden.king --"The stars are veiled. Something stirs in the East. A sleepless malice. The Eye of the enemy is moving." —Legolas 22:30, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

The vote is unanimous for the merging of The Hobbit (1977 animated film) with The Hobbit (1977 film) under the name The Hobbit (1977 animated film) the matter is closed--DarkLantern 03:18, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

MERGED theoden.king --"The stars are veiled. Something stirs in the East. A sleepless malice. The Eye of the enemy is moving." —Legolas 18:53, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

The merging of Forlindon and Harlindon into Lindon. (voting closed)

I vote yes--DarkLantern 02:32, September 6, 2009 (UTC)

I vote No. In my opinion, that is like merging articles about ancient China into articles about ancient Mongolia. They were both in Genghis Khan's empire, but they are obviously different. --Uldor 20:51, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

I would also vote No in this instance. User:Henneth Annun

No - Unless I am gravely mistaken, the separate regions had their own significance during the First Age. TheGreyPilgrim|Talk|Contribs|Edits 02:33, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

No. -Nistra 14:57, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

The majority rules Forlindon and Harlindon will not be merged into Lindon.--DarkLantern 12:46, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

The merging of Haradwaith with Harad.

I vote yes--DarkLantern 02:32, September 6, 2009 (UTC)

I vote Yes. --Uldor 20:44, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Yes. -Nistra 12:57, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. McJeff ^{(talk this way)}/_{(stalk this way)} 00:18, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

The merging of Far Harad and Near Harad with Harad. (voting closed)

I vote yes--DarkLantern 06:46, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

I vote No. They are both distinct regions in Harad. In my opinion, that is like merging articles about Illinois and New Mexico into an article about the United States.--Uldor 20:42, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

I vote No Each are distinct regions within Harad deserving of separate entry, however, I would argue in favor of including summaries about the two regions into an article discussing the nation-state of Harad. NJZimmermann 22:55, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

No. -Nistra 15:00, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

No. Although Near Harad and Far Harad are not large articles, for organizational reasons they are still worth keeping. In the article Harad, Geography, History, and Climate are all separated. The individual articles allow you to see the information more compactedly without scrolling through a larger article. McJeff ^{(talk this way)}/_{(stalk this way)} 00:21, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

The majority rules Far Harad and Near Harad will not be merged into Harad.--DarkLantern 12:46, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

The merging of Minas Ithil with Minas Morgul under the title of Minas Morgul. (voting closed)

I vote Yes under the name Minas Morgul.--DarkLantern 02:01, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Yes - Under Minas Morgul, definitely. TheGreyPilgrim|Talk|Contribs|Edits 02:37, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. -Nistra 15:53, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Reason: The same as Minas Anor and Minas Tirith, same as Gandalf and Mithril, same as Aragorn II and Strider, and under the name of Minas Morgul because its the most famous name. -Winterz 19.33, October 4, 2010 (GMT)

Under Minas Ithil - although Minas Morgul plays a greater role in the LOTR trilogy, the city spends much more time as Minas Ithil. Also, it was built as Minas Ithil - Minas Morgul became its name after it was taken and corrupted. McJeff ^{(talk this way)}/_{(stalk this way)} 00:47, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

The majority rules Minas Ithil will be merged with Minas Morgul under the name of Minas Morgul.--DarkLantern 12:46, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

The merging of the text of Branda-nîn with Brandywine. (voting closed & merged)

I vote yes--DarkLantern 07:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, Shouldn't this be merged to Brandywine River? - Razor77 03:26, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes. -Nistra 14:32, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. McJeff ^{(talk this way)}/_{(stalk this way)} 00:03, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. --Wyvern Rex. 18:44, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 20:09, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

The merging of Ninglor with Gladden (voting closed & merged)

I vote yes. The Gladden is more widely known.--DarkLantern 17:53, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Gladden is much more widely known. User:Henneth Annun

Yes. -Nistra 15:36, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Gladden seems to be the best name. EvilHeroDarkGaia 13:29, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yes - Gladden, matches Disaster of the Gladden Fields.--Wyvern Rex. 18:44, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 15:41, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

The merging of Zirak-zigil and Celebdil into on article under the name Celebdil (Voting closed & merged)

I vote yes under the name Celebdil it seems more common.--DarkLantern 11:48, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

I vote yes to the merge, however Zirak-zigil is more commonly referred to in the books as the mountain. Perhaps compromising with Silvertine in Westron, rather than the Kuzdul or Sindarin forms should be considered. Is there a de facto language for proper names in the wiki? -- Alvincura 00:28, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but I'm indecisive about the headword. --Weas-El ( talk | blog ) 07:47, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but, as I've only ever heard Zirak-zigil, I would like it titled as such. User:Henneth Annun

Yes, and I slightly prefer Zirak-zigil. -Nistra 15:46, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, under Zirak-Zigil. EvilHeroDarkGaia 07:09, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, under Zirak-zigil (the dwarves were there first).--Wyvern Rex. 18:44, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

The majority vote prevails for the merging of Zirak-zigil and Celebdil under the name Zirak-zigil.--DarkLantern 03:00, November 9, 2010 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 03:00, November 9, 2010 (UTC)

The merging of the text of Hammer of the Underworld into two separate articles (voting closed & merged)

One with the text intended for Morgoth's mace entitled (Grond (Mace) and the rest of the text combined with Grond, the great battering ram of Mordor.

I vote yes--DarkLantern 07:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Razor77 03:26, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes. -Nistra 14:47, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yes - keep Grond as it is, rewrite Hammer of the Underworld to be specifically about Morgoth's weapon. McJeff ^{(talk this way)}/_{(stalk this way)} 00:05, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. --Wyvern Rex. 18:44, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Vote is concluded and merged--DarkLantern 12:50, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

The merging of Noegyth Nibin with Petty-dwarves (voting closed & merged)

I vote yes under the name Petty-dwarves.--DarkLantern 04:36, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, and merge Petty-dwarves content into the former. {{SUBST:Nosubst|Signatures/Fruit.Smoothie}} 05:36, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, merge to Noegyth Nibin, the other name is just a description. --Weas-El ( talk | blog ) 07:47, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Impartial about the name. -Nistra 15:40, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Merge to Petty-dwarves, it is more commonly used. McJeff ^{(talk this way)}/_{(stalk this way)} 00:40, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Merge to Noegyth Nibin.EvilHeroDarkGaia 13:27, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. I prefer the "Noegyth Nibin" as it is the correct term. Tolkien used petty-dwarves, but more as an AKA.--Wyvern Rex. 18:44, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Merge to Petty-dwarves, you have to have an encyclopedic memory of names to remember all the names that are given to every people. Petty-dwarves is the most common one.--Nognix 18:43, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Majority rules for the merging of both articles under the name Petty-dwarves.--DarkLantern 17:20, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

The Merging of Eagles, Eagles of Manwë & Great Eagles into one article or the Great Eagles & Eagles of Manwë into one article with Eagles as a separate article (Voting closed & merged)

I vote Great Eagles and Eagles of Manwë put together and Eagles remaining separate.--DarkLantern 05:23, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

I vote to merge the content of Great Eagles into Eagles of Manwe, remove overlapping or redundant info, then merge Eagles of Manwe into Eagles, and create the appropriate == Eagles of Manwe == header for it within the aforementioned Eagles article. Fruit.Smoothie 05:37, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I say we merge the three to Great Eagles. Eagles isn't relevant, there are no other eagles in the books, as far as I know. --Weas-El ( talk | blog ) 07:47, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Merge all three into Eagles and create sub-headers of the other(s) if needed. -Nistra 15:44, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

'Yes, ' into Great Eagles. EvilHeroDarkGaia 07:06, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, into Great Eagles (format like Giant Spiders).--Wyvern Rex. 18:44, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Merge into Great Eagles.--Nognix 18:51, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Majority vote for the merging of all into Great Eagles--DarkLantern 04:15, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

The merging of House of Marach with House of Hador (Voting closed & merged)

I vote yes under House of Hador.--DarkLantern 18:20, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but I'm indecisive about the headword, but House of Marach seems to be more appropriate. --Weas-El ( talk | blog ) 07:47, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yes - These two are indeed the same; however, House of Hador is a much more common name, thus I think it should be kept. TheGreyPilgrim|Talk|Contribs|Edits 02:35, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. -Nistra 15:37, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, under house of Marach because that the more complete name. EvilHeroDarkGaia 17:13, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, House of Marach for the original name.--Wyvern Rex. 18:44, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, under House of Marach Reason: Marach is over Hador, while Hador is Marach's grandson(or something like that), his house cannot include Marach's house because they are above him and clearly his ancestors weren't in the House of Hador but his predecessors were under House of Marach.Winterz 15:55, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yes under House of Marach. This is the correct canonical name for this particular house of the Edain upon their arrival in Beleriand. During Hador's rule, the House of Marach was also called the Men of Dor Lomin, not the House of Hador. unsigned

Yes, House of Marach (the progenitor), with redirects from all its other names. — Robin Patterson (Talk) 00:57, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Majority vote for House of Marach--DarkLantern 06:53, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

The merging of Peredhil with Half-elven (voting closed & merged)

I vote yes under its most common name Half-elven.--DarkLantern 18:49, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Yes for me too, but I suppose this brings up a recurring question: are articles to be titled with most popular name, or with the name in it's respective "original" language? I vote for more popular, as many fans have no desire to find and are not familiar with Quenya, Sindarin, etc, names. I feel compelled to imagine that Tolkien would have very much preferred his own invented names...

I vote Yes, under Peredhil. I prefer the original names. --Uldor 20:47, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

I vote yes to merging, but I think it must still be answered if Westron (English) or Sindarin is the de facto "standard" language. -- Alvincura 00:29, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but I'm indecisive about the headword. --Weas-El ( talk | blog ) 07:47, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but the standard language/naming needs to be determined in general for all articles. -Nistra 15:14, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, indecisive about the headword but leaning towards Peredhil to help differentiate from half-elves in other fantasy settings. McJeff ^{(talk this way)}/_{(stalk this way)} 00:36, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, under Peredhil, because I agree with McJeff. EvilHeroDarkGaia 13:31, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yes - Tolkien's intention was to present his saga as a translation. The original names are therefore the only truly accurate descriptor of his unique mythos, so I vote for Peredhil.--Wyvern Rex. 18:44, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, under Half-elven. Reason: because it is clearly the most famous and easiest name....after all, how many people knows them as Peredhil and how many know them simply as Half-elven. Winterz 15:50, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, under Peredhil to conform with such pages as Uruk-hai and Olog-hai, because as long as Half-elven is used as a redirect it should work well. Zeta1127 of the 89th Legion (talk) 18:01, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

The majority rules for Peredhil--DarkLantern 19:42, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

The merging of Mitheithel with Hoarwell (voting closed & merged)

I vote yes. Hoarwell seems the more common Mannish translation.--DarkLantern 16:31, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Hoarwell is fine, but again, a standard article naming rule would be good to have. -Nistra 15:35, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Slight preference for Mitheithel, Hoarwell seems to be a local name.--Wyvern Rex. 18:44, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Very slight preference for Mitheithel, in the absence of a naming convention and in regards to a little-mentioned waterway, default to Elven name. McJeff ^{(talk this way)}/_{(stalk this way)} 05:59, October 31, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Mitheithel prefered. EvilHeroDarkGaia 20:37, November 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, under Mitheithel to make it similar to Bruinen/Loudwater. Aren't many of the locations Sindarin names with prominent Common Speech (Westron, represented by English) translations? Zeta1127 of the 89th Legion (talk) 18:24, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

The majority rules for Peredhil--DarkLantern 19:42, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

The merging of Fictional universe, Legendarium and Mythology into one article known as Tolkien Mythology (voting closed & merged)

• All participates should vote on both the merging and the title and if they don’t like that one, they would be free to suggest another.

I vote Yes. All three of these articles and their contents are mostly or nearly on the same thing, and could be explained within just one article title.--DarkLantern 05:26, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I make DarkLantern's words mine while completly agreeing. Merging it into a paged named "Tolkien Mythology" looks actually pretty good. Although I still have some doubts about the "Fictional Universe" article being also merged. Winterz 00:24, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yes under Tolkien Mythology.--Wyvern Rex. 09:47, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, under Tolkien Mythology. Zeta1127 of the 89th Legion (talk) 18:13, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that seems acceptable. --Will k ^{Talk to me!} 01:10, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Votes agree to merge.--DarkLantern 01:52, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

The merging of Frodo's Journey: Part 1 and Frodo's journey to Mordor into the Quest of the Ring (voting closed & merged)

The text is not worthless but I do not believe in these separate parts of what is the same thing.--DarkLantern 20:26, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, just like there's no reason for Sauron's lord titles to have a separate page there isnt any sense in keeping this ones also separated. Frodo's Journey: Part 1 should actually be a subtitle of Frodo's Journey to Mordor and consequently Frodo's Journey to Mordor within Quest of the Ring's single page. Winterz 00:22, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yes unless the ultimate result would be a very very long article. Merging the three as they are would not result in too much length, but a full treatment of Quest of the Ring would cover a huge amount of material, wouldn't it? — Robin Patterson (Talk) 00:41, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

• Well if those articles were way more complete than it would clearly become that huge amount of information you are mentioning, but how they are now...it makes it indeed worth merging. Winterz 00:50, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yes as these should indeed be one article.--Wyvern Rex. 09:47, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, under the Quest of the Ring. Zeta1127 of the 89th Legion (talk) 18:15, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that seems the smart thing to do. --Will k ^{Talk to me!} 01:11, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Votes agree merge.--DarkLantern 07:06, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

The merging of Gorkil the Goblin King‎ with Gorkil (voting closed & merged)

Both articles describe the same character. --Weas-El Talk|Contribs 23:29, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Yes under Gorkil.--Wyvern Rex. 08:02, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Yes that sounds like a good idea.--DarkLantern 00:11, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Yes under Gorkil with Gorkil the Goblin King's content. Zeta1127 of the 89th Legion (talk) 03:29, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, per Zeta1127.--DrewMek 19:30, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 22:21, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

The merging of Lord of the Earth with Sauron (Voting closed & already merged)

I don't see why this title gets an own article. This should be mentioned in the article Sauron, that's all. --Weas-El (Talk) 01:06, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. In my opinion, a title should only have its own page if more than one individual bore the name.--Wyvern Rex. 11:45, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, there is no reason for there to be an article about "Lord of the Earth" anyway, since nobody will search for it and it only applies to Sauron so they will go to his page. All the information on this page should just be added to Sauron's. EvilHeroDarkGaia 14:33, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

I say No. There are many such examples of independent articles on titles and we should not combine them all with others. In this case, we are not just talking about one or two sentences here there is a small history on the title there.--DarkLantern 05:26, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

If (as seems likely) that title applied to only one person, there's no need for a separate article about it. Merge the title material into his page and leave the title as a redirect (since nobody can be sure that "nobody will search for it"). — Robin Patterson (Talk) 00:10, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

There was only one Lord of the Earth, so Yes. --Will k ^{Talk to me!} 01:09, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, per others.--DrewMek 19:30, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

No --Thijs95 14:48, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Majority votes for the merging--DarkLantern 22:56, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

The merging of Chronology of the Lord of the Rings with Timeline of Arda

I vote Yes--DarkLantern 00:35, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

No, Reason: In my opinion, Chronology of the Lord of the Rings is one of the most important events of all Arda's timeline and so it does deserve an independent page. Also because they clearly are not the same thing although one belongs to another and it may help more someone which is interested in learning about the Lotr chronology and not scroll all Arda's timeline looking for some Lotr related events which may not even belong to it. Example: Third Age-Winterz 19.33, October 4, 2010 (GMT)

Keep Separate: Timeline of Arda is a good general article, and the timelines of the individual ages can be used to go into greater depth about the events. McJeff ^{(talk this way)}/_{(stalk this way)} 00:49, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

No, Chronology of the Lord of the Rings (Those three books being the reason why most of the readers are here.) is a useful reference.--Wyvern Rex. 18:44, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

No, it's fine the way they're. EvilHeroDarkGaia 20:40, November 12, 2010 (UTC)

No. The Chronology is more detailed and tabulated and would lose some of its value if it had to be squeezed into the timeline. It would also lose its ability to be categorized specifically. — Robin Patterson (Talk) 00:51, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yes --Will k ^{Talk to me!} 01:07, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

By majority vote these two articles will remain separate.--DarkLantern 16:02, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

The merging of Chronology of the Lord of the Rings with Timeline of Arda (voting closed)

I vote Yes--DarkLantern 00:35, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

No, Reason: In my opinion, Chronology of the Lord of the Rings is one of the most important events of all Arda's timeline and so it does deserve an independent page. Also because they clearly are not the same thing although one belongs to another and it may help more someone which is interested in learning about the Lotr chronology and not scroll all Arda's timeline looking for some Lotr related events which may not even belong to it. Example: Third Age-Winterz 19.33, October 4, 2010 (GMT)

Keep Separate: Timeline of Arda is a good general article, and the timelines of the individual ages can be used to go into greater depth about the events. McJeff ^{(talk this way)}/_{(stalk this way)} 00:49, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

No, Chronology of the Lord of the Rings (Those three books being the reason why most of the readers are here.) is a useful reference.--Wyvern Rex. 18:44, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

No, it's fine the way they're. EvilHeroDarkGaia 20:40, November 12, 2010 (UTC)

No. The Chronology is more detailed and tabulated and would lose some of its value if it had to be squeezed into the timeline. It would also lose its ability to be categorized specifically. — Robin Patterson (Talk) 00:51, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yes --Will k ^{Talk to me!} 01:07, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

The majority rules. The articles will not merged.--DarkLantern 08:07, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

The merging of The World of Arda and Tolkien with Tolkien Mythology (Voting Closed)

Although well written, I do not believe this article should be a separate one.

I vote to merge it with Tolkien Mythology.--DarkLantern 14:42, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Vote: No, I think you should merge Tolkien Mythology with J.R.R. Tolkien and rename the other article, then merge Eä with it. It would be a shame to let the one article where the creation of Eä is properly described, go to waste.--Nognix 08:42, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

No: Nognix has got the right idea.--Wyvern Rex. 11:01, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

By majority vote, the two articles will remain separate.--DarkLantern 02:57, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

The merging of Goblin with Orc (Voting closed)

I vote for the merging of Goblin with Orc because they are essentially the same thing.--DarkLantern 16:41, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

I don't. They are not. Goblins are a special breed distint enough to have their own page.--a wiki contributor

Yes to merging Moria Orcs with Goblin under the name Goblin. No to merging Orc and Goblin. In Tolkien's books, they are the same but they have diverged in media adaptations.--Wyvern Rex. Send Carrier Pidgeon|Scroll of Deeds 15:35, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Vote: No. Wyvern Rex has a point.--Nognix 08:42, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Vote: NO.

Thornclaw Far over the Misty Mountains cold. To dungeons deep and caverns old. 12:10, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

By majority vote, the two articles will remain separate.--DarkLantern 02:57, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

The merging of Cave-troll and Moria Cave-troll (voting closed)

Motivation: Articles are pretty much telling the same thing. --Nognix 08:57, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

This issue is closed. Moria Cave-troll has no personal name so it has been added to List of unnamed original characters of the books and films. No need to merge.--DarkLantern 08:46, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

By majority vote, the two articles will remain separate.--DarkLantern 02:57, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

The merging of Sauron and Annatar and Necromancer and Lord of the Rings (Title)

Motivation: There are a number of precedents of merging Sauron's pages together. I, of course, refer to the merging of Gorthaur and Sauron on November 5, 2009, the merging of Aulendil and Sauron on July 24, 2009, the merging of Lord of the Earth and Sauron on June 29, 2011, the merging of Artano and Sauron on June 19, 2009.--Nognix 09:49, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Annatar and the Necromancer but I am not sure about The Lord of the Rings (Title). There is the issue of whether to maintain title pages if they only have one who ever held the title.--DarkLantern 10:56, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Yes to merging all three. I believe that if one individual only held a title, then that title should be mentioned on their page but does not merit a page of its own.--Wyvern Rex. 11:05, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 20:58, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

The merging of Olog-hai and Attack Troll (Voting Closed)

Motivation: Merge 'em both, delete the stuff describing the video game stuff and make a separate page for that, all the video game unit articles have separate pages. --Nognix 09:02, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, I've never heard of Attack Trolls outside of video games. I say keep them separate.--DarkLantern 10:56, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Mr. Lantern. The Attack Troll is only in the video games, while the Olog-hai is in, maybe some of them, but mainly only mentioned in the RotK book and in the movie.

Thorn Far over the Misty Mountains cold. To dungeons deep and caverns old. 12:11, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Majority rules They will remain separate.--DarkLantern 08:55, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

The merging of Melkor and Bauglir (Voting Closed & Merged)

Motivation: See above (Sauron). --Nognix 12:16, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

I agree.--DarkLantern 08:46, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

I disagree. I wrote them. I am Farrell. It was my intention to provide a detailed article on Melkor, and another detailed article on Morgoth; in Tolkien's later writings, these are two distinct states of the Diabolus of Middle-earth. He conceived of "the Morgoth" as Melkor's latter condition, when he lost so much power he could no longer change form, and became ever more bound to the earth. In the article Baugilar (which should be titled Morgoth) I presented a detailed account of Morgoth's activities in Beleriand, which would have been cumberous in the main body of the Melkor article. Read the two accounts yourself, now that I have finished them. --James Farrell, Loremaster, January 31st, 2012

Comment: Well Loremaster, I'm sure you'll agree if I say Morgoth is a name for Melkor, given by Feanor after Melkor stole the Silmarils (As stated in the Silmarillion). Thus, it's an alias, thus they should be merged since the merging of aliases has been done numerous times before (Sauron and his articles).--Nognix 21:16, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

Majority rules They will be merged.--DarkLantern 08:55, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

The merging of Half-orc, Goblin Men & Orc-men under the ultimate name of Half-orcs (Voting Closed & merged)

Motivation: Although one of the articles state they aren't the same, I think they are. They even have the same picture.--Nognix 00:11, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Yes: clearly the same.--Wyvern Rex. 11:42, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

I'm inclined to agree with this and I have added Orc-men to it as well. I believe this is a wise merging because Orc and Man blood make up the bulk of these three so-called races. I vote Yes.--DarkLantern 10:35, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

Merged under Half-orcs.--DarkLantern 09:14, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

The merging of Towers of the Teeth and Teeth of Mordor (Voting Closed & Merged)

Both are the same place. Imposter101 22:37, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

I agree.--DarkLantern 00:02, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Yes.--Wyvern Rex. 09:31, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Merge--Nognix 20:01, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Merged--DarkLantern 09:05, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

The merging of English language and Old English language (Voting Closed)

I believe these articles should be merged with Old English language.--DarkLantern 11:36, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Vote: No, as I don't see the point in having a stub article about the English language, go to Wikipedia for that. Delete English language and merge Old English language with Rohirric--Nognix 08:42, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

No: both articles should be replaced with Wikipedia links.--Wyvern Rex. 11:02, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Majority rules. Articles will stay separate.--DarkLantern 03:55, March 27, 2012 (UTC)

The merging of Pauline Baynes and Miss Pauline Baynes (voting closed and already merged)

Motivation: Same person, the Miss Pauline Baynes has some extra information which is why it isn't the articles for deletion list.--Nognix 15:39, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

I agree.--DarkLantern 22:10, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

totally99.20.251.219 22:18, March 26, 2012 (UTC)

Yep, Winterz 01:03, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

merged--DarkLantern 13:10, May 6, 2012 (UTC)

The merging of The Fell Beasts of the Nazgul and Fell Beast (voting closed)

Motivation: They already have the merge template but were never discussed, I think they should be merged.--Nognix 15:52, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

I agree.--DarkLantern 22:10, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

Sure, if under the "Fell Beast" name ofc. Winterz 01:04, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

Done--DarkLantern 10:23, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

The merging of Dol Guldur Mouth and Mouth of Sauron (voting closed)

Motivation: Both pages are on the same subject.--Nognix 17:04, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

There is no documentation that the Mouth of Sauron was the originally this character at all and that picture quite possibly came out of the Dol Guldur book which was a companion book to the Middle-earth Role Playing game.--DarkLantern 22:10, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

So... That's pro or contra?--Nognix 19:14, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

Yes to merging but the text and the image MUST be placed under a Non-canonical header on the Mouth of Sauron article.--DarkLantern 06:12, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

I change my vote. Keep these separate.--DarkLantern 04:02, May 19, 2012 (UTC)

The merging of Bow and Bow of the Galadhrim

yes, because there is not very much info on bow of the galadhrim

Agreed--DarkLantern 09:04, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

Sure and not that only. Pretty much every with such low-sized text should be merged and put under a subtittle like "Types" or "Variants". Winterz 01:09, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

The merging of Saruman's staff, Wizard Staff and Gandalf the Grey's Staff of Power under a certain name (voting closed)

Motivation: The Saruman's staff, as well as the Gandalf's staff articles are quite vague and state nothing but obvious things. I think the given information could easily be centralised and covered in another article, not necessarily the Wizard staff article.--Nognix 15:28, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

Saruman's staff and Gandalf's staff are completely different things. The pages are not very well made, but this does not mean combine them. These pages should be improved, not combined.

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I vote Yes.--DarkLantern 03:46, May 19, 2012 (UTC)

The merging of Evil Eye and Eye of Sauron (voting closed & already merged)

Motivation: Both articles discuss the same thing.--Nognix 16:40, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

I agree.--DarkLantern 22:10, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

Actually I believe "Evil Eye" article should be deleted not merged. Seeems a lot fanon-like to me. When was the eye ever mentioned as a separate creature?! Winterz 01:06, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Winterz, "Evil Eye" looks like it was created by someone who just put some information together in a very wrong way. Morgoth's Ring 19:49, June 10, 2012 (UTC)

Deleted--DarkLantern (talk) 11:27, July 24, 2012 (UTC)